Just Us: An American Conversation

In Citizen, Claudia Rankine wrote: “Because white men can’t / police their imagination / black people are dying.”

In her follow-up book, Just Us: An American Conversation, Rankine comes back to her exploration of conversation and the racial imaginary of the United States. Through the practice of making conversation, creating an entangled empathy, the book interrogates Whiteness and the state of relating to others. Rankine provides an example of a process with which all of us can explore our American story.

Host Aubrey Hicks is joined by LaVonna Lewis, Olivia Olson, Sumun Pendakur, and David Sloane.

Thank you to our co-producers Aubrey Hicks and Jonathan Schwartz as well as our beloved sound supervisors, The Brothers Hedden. Recorded at the USC Price School.

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White Fragility

Host Aubrey Hicks is joined by professors Chris Redfearn and Liz Falletta in a discussion of the New York Times bestselling book White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo.

On today’s podcast, we talk about how white fragility works to sustain and reproduce the racist institutions & socialization which we all inherited.

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